[QUOTE=Charlie Francis,post:20,topic:41069"]
Just a few thoughts:
1:SLJ and VJ MAY have a slight relationship to 40y- but only if they are an indicator of freshness and recovery- a good indication there would be recent improvement in these areas rather than results alone.
2: SLJ and VJ do not rely on decreased contact time so there can be no direct relationship to 40y.
The World Record in the SLJ is held by a Shotputter and you can expect linemmen to do better overall here than the backs.
Squatting to weight ability should have a relationship- IF the athlete can handle the owrkload associated with his improvement.
Your example is illustrative. The guy improved from 300 to 500 but his 40y remained static. What if he had followed a more modest strength increase regime? He might well now be at 450 in the squat and have a faster 40y.
OR, as I point out in the Weights for Speed downloads, what if the weights followed a pattern adjusted for and catering to his speed work?
Now he might not only be faster, he might squat MORE than 500 because weight strength will follow the speed improvement if that speed work can raisse its quality high enough.
I have seen this phenominon in the 225 bench test as well but you can pass on your thoughts on that when you’re ready.[/QUOTE
very interesting and every time i think i start to understand these concepts i realize i have so much more to learn.
The weight program that is done unfortunately is not catered to practice time and conditioning, etc. So as you say, it could increase with a more modest approach in the weights portion.
1:SO am i right in assuming that what you mean is that becaue the main concentraition was not on running speed (as the weigths and running were planned as seperate entities) much of the CNS reserves and most of the adaptation has taken place within the lifting. So backing of the weight would result in the body’s ability to apply itself to faster sprinting?
2:Then, because of the strength developed through sprinting when one were to go back to more weights it could potentially increaes his strength even more?
3:Also, how is this seen in the 225 rep test? Im trying to think it through but havent been able to come to a conclusion. Personally ive always felt that one should train from low intensity to progressing to higher intensities for this test. But than again as the more i learn the more i realise i know nothing lol. And im not sure how this relates to the previosu example of the relationship between weights/speed.
4:one last thing, regarding the slj and vj and gct. I realize that gct is not a part of the jumps, but in both of those jumps require the display of power, so how can that not be related to gct when running?
1: Yes.
2: It depends on the background of the athlete. If it’s a back with sprints background and somewhat similar sessions, the intensity generated by the sprint work will shift the weight strength expressed upwards but if all his runs are very short, the maximum sprint intensity may not be high enough for this to happen. Even so, point one will still be true.
3: The nature of speed work is repeated burts of extreme intensity, which appears to make the lifting pyramid towards 1RM much wider farther down. As such, it makes sense to keep the weight high in the bench and allow the sprint training to create the strength reserve to increase the 225 rep numbers.
4: SLJ and VJ are indirectly linked.