Preview of GPP training program for elite TKD fighter

I have had a similar problems with large weights. I have tried to fix it using one leg exercises, isometrics, glut activation/facilitation techniques but it has never gone away. I’ve never got injured by using this technqiue and my squat is fairly good 6ft 5, 180lbs - arse to grass squat pb 300lbs?

Thanks Steve…
So, I shouldn’t fix if ain’t broken?

You can never be sure. Sometimes when trying to correct a problem it may open up a can of worms. Sometimes you can correct the problem straight away. And other times you can try to correct the problem which may cause some discomfort in the initial phases and then after a period the problem can be resolved.

That probably makes as much sense as???

Yes it make sense, but it also makes the thing more complex…
She is having back pain, but I must ask is this cause of poor movement patter or it is its cause? Chicken or Egg?
Shirley Sahrmann say that poor movement pattern are a CAUSE not a consequence of musculosceletal pain!

I thought you mentioned that you were able resolve the back pain problems?

Yes and no… she is experiencing back problems when she stands long… She was at concert last night and she experienced little pain during today’s training, because she stood for 5h!
Normally it is fine, but again, your back pain episodes may return when you are fatigued etc…

Sounds possibly a shoe issue. Does she where heels or some other form of impractical footwear? I know a lot of female athletes who have sworn off them for those types of reasons.

Duxx, regarding the article about karateka, those diagnostics look like they have potential. I am less keen on the cycle tests (as they seem somewhat artificial), but the discrimination reaction time test looked very interesting as do the results in comparison to other athletes. I definiately agree with their assessment that this quality is very important for striker athletes. The interesting thing was the sub-average performances by grapplers, as i think that discrimination reaction time is important for these athletes as well. I wonder if the cues they used might be the cause of this. A visual cue would be closer to what a striker has to deal with, while a tactile cue would be closer to a grappler’s situation. A follow up test on this would be interesting. (As would testing people from arts that do grappling and striking).

I wished that the authors spent a little more time on the changes in these diagnostics over a training period, but from what they mentionned, they look good. The real test would be to look at athletes with a stastical weakness in one of these tests and see if fixing this quality leads to better performance in the ring. (Unfortunately this would be hard to run as an experiment… :frowning: )

BTW, duxx, have you looked at your athlete’s scores with these diagnostics? (if they are in the norms for the study, then they aren’t going to be as useful…)

Quark,

thanks for your help! I don’t think she wears high heels at all! I only saw her in that at apsolvent party!!! I really don’t know what is the issue and I don’t know any good PT to help me out… BTW the pain is not so strong so I will see how the “quality” strength training and core stability exercises (with hip and thoracic spine mobility) will help us out during time… in the mean time I will study Sahrmann’s book…

Quark, I didn’t have time to look at the paper I have sent to you… I don’t have a printer and I don’t like to read on the monitor… I will print it out somewhere and read it… Thanks for your review!

No problem. It was a fun read. I haven’t been able to read fun literature in a while. :slight_smile: You might want to ask EFS’s Q&A about it. They have a few good rehab guy.

Thanks for the tip!

Duxx or anyone else when performing the McGill tests inc the lateral musculature test, flexor endurance and the back extensor if the individual breaks form slightly do you finish the test or would you wait for a big chane in technique.

Some people seem to shake quite a lot, but don’t break the cut off points as suggested by Mcgill?

Altought I don’t have the book nearby, I know he suggested in flexor endurance test, to break the test when the patient touches the triangle… But what if athlete flexes in trunk?

I would say that the posture should be straight, wattch the quality… you judge!
Sorry I can’t be very helpfull! Be free to contact McGill himself! I could PM you his e-mail, but you can find it on his site. BTW share with us his answers! I am certrain he will help you!

How has training this athlete has been going lately?

Thanks for asking quark,

she is currenlty on vacation in Greece for 7-10 days. We kicked out pretty much everything except gym and tkd practices. But we are going to hit hard as soon as she returns. Am I here more an adviser, because, believe it or not, she is in same class on faculty as I am, so I am trying to “learn her” to lift, everything else is her “problem”. I will just “spin the wheel” and let her start, explain the progressions, exercises classification and cycling etc, and she will continue on her own later.
As I had to go to training of bball team in the morning I missed couple of her training sessions last week

What test do you guys use to monitor endurance capacity in mma?
beep test, step test, 100m? being that u need power endurance im curious to see what test people use

I say 100m cause i was thinking timing at the 60m mark & 100m mark an then retest & if that 2nd last 40m is faster, his endurance, his speed/power endurance has increased?

You can watch the athlete fight… watch his performance (qualitative analysis).
There is one test/workout Dr. Squat done with Holyfield to bring him to form (“lactate tolerance”). It consists of 100m running, some jumping exercises etc… here it is!

I agree with duxx about watching fights. There is no better test than that. If you want something more quantitative, occasionally i use takedowns drills in a circuit. (10 mount reversals/takedowns/throws etc of various kinds). This (besides being good technique work) gives a fair idea of how badly technique breaks down as well.

The problem with the 100m running tests is that it doesn’t corellate well to endurance on the mat, (nor with striking too well either). They could be used to get the athlete in shape though (especially when the introduction of more specific work for endurance perposes would be too much).