i can feel the panic attack coming…
sometimes that helps
Is this a birth control pill? Cause I was planning on starting it on Sunday…
What problems is it causing? And is it just you, or do most girls who take it experience the same?
(sorry if this convo does not appeal to any guys but I had to ask)
yes it is birth control
It could just be the pill i am on, but i am on a very low-dose pill and i gained some weight around my hips that i feel like i can’t lose while i am still on it. It wasn’t a lot of weight, but enough that i noticed. Everyone reacts differently to them so I would try it out and see what happens- your work output is probably more than enough to keep effects at bay, but for a while after I switched to field I think I was eating as if I were still doing intense running training. I tend to be pretty sensitive to hormone stuff like that, but I have heard stories of other women on the pill whose performance dropped… seems like mostly as a result of side effects. There were other effects but I should probably tell you privately :rolleyes:
I am sort of grabbing at anything I can to explain my slump in performance 
and running started off well in the weeks before i went on the pill. I may try going off of it and see if it makes a difference, i’ll let you know
i didn’t mean to scare you! if you try it and feel that it has any bad effects it’s easy enough to just stop taking them, unless of course you come to depend on it in a certain capacity like me :rolleyes:
oh man what a day
got some sleep which was nice
-WU+ short hurdle drills, sprint drills
-4x20 accels
-4x5 hurdle jog-throughs 5-stepping
-5x10 hurdles jammed in, 3-stepping
-3x30 out of blocks
-multi-throw series explosive with heavy shot- 5 exercises, 4 times each
-multijump series: single leg hops and lateral hops 2x10m each leg (working flat-foot contacts, not more than an inch or two off the ground)
break for class
lift: fletcher has lost his mind
-another superset: split squats w/wobble board, NO REST straight into split squats with the back leg elevated, NO REST straight into lunges. 2 min. rest, then start again- 3 sets in total. I did: 3x8 @40k for wobble, 3x6 @40 for split squats, 3x50lbs for lunges
-second superset: glute-ham raises, NO REST into stiff-legged deadlifts, NO REST straight into hamstring curls, 2 min. rest, 3 sets total. 2x8, 1x10 glute-hams, 2x8@40, 1x8@45 deads, 2x6, 1x4 @whatever the 4th and 5th holes were
Had my shake right afterwards 
but honestly it was a deathly lift. My legs were pretty shot going in, and they are already starting to get sore. I went on the bike for 10 easy minutes because I couldn’t move, then went and jumped into the cold whirlpool for 15 minutes up to my ribs. It was exactly 50 degrees which is pretty damn cold, so I came back to my room and curled up in bed shaking for over an hour… let’s hope it was worth it in the morning.
I didn’t do an extra gym session because I am doing a hard workout tommorow at 7am: 2x(400, 200, 200) with 1 min between reps, 10 min. between sets, @600 pace. I also ate slightly more during the day because I knew I had the tough lift coming up, and then I had some cheat food afterwards… which I am now having a massive guilt attack about ew
I was talking with some teammates who told me about some diet of fletcher’s they tried last year- basically it was a high-protein, no carb thing- they ate every 2 or 3 hours, with protein shakes being the exclusive nutrition between meals. I think they were allowed one carb meal per day. They said they lost a lot of weight and all of their maxes in the weight room went up. I’m very tempted to try it, but I have a feeling it would be tough for me to give up fruit and also stick to my meat of policy of 5 years which has been fish and chicken but no other meat. I have not gained THAT much weight in actual body fat, but I can pinpoint exactly where the gains are and it makes me feel panicky just to think about it. Being a female athlete can be tough sometimes :eek:
No carb diet eh? Those might be effective in losing weight for like a week, but that’s water weight… Not to put it down, but I’d stay away from that low/no carb diets… where will your energy come from? Not from the huge amounts of protein consumed… Fats of course, but carbs are the main energy source…
Sounded like an intense weight session… Keep up the good work in your training.
aka eat more. quit spazzing about food all the time.
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You want to make sure you include some red meats (beef) in your diet, about twice a week at least. I was doing the same thing as you for about two years, then in Greece my coach had me do a blood test and I was diagnosed anemic because of my no-red-meat-diet. Basically not enough oxygen is transfered into the lungs and if I had a proper blood count who knows how much better I would be doing on the track…
At some point in Greece I started eating anythign with iron in it (I even had liver which I hate) and my coach noted a serious improvent in my running. I always had energy at practice, but at that point my energy actually turned into quality…
It may seem to you (and me, trust me…) that being light is the key to being explosive and fast, but you will be amazed how much energy you’ll get from eating well (=enough)
I’m going back to my Greece coach now: At the beginning of the fall she stressed how I needed to lose some weight, which really didn’t work cause if someone tells me to lose weight, then I simply can’t do it - it has to be my own saying. Some weight naturally dropped from the running in pre season and when “real” practices began the coach never mentioned the weight issue again and once the blood results came out, she told me every day “make sure you EAT”. And I still had MORE weight to lose, it’s not like I was a skinny runner.
My point is: it’s more about quality of food and meals, not about pounds.
I’ve only been running for three years but I can tell you this much: my first year I developed a semi eating disorder, got the lightest i’ve ever been (137lbs), trained really hard and had a 61sec pr in the 400. My second year I ate better and didn’t freak out about food like the first year. I was out for 2 months from stress fractures, came back and ran 60sec pr with practically no track training…But I felt healthier and stronger.
THIS year, I’m a mess with injuries, but I feel healthy and strong, especially since i was diagnosed with anemia and started eating beef and such. I’m doing bike and pool workouts a lot harder than the ones i did last year, and I’m PR’ing like crazy in the weight room and I weigh more than last year.
I said too much, but the key here is: maybe it’s not weight that you need to lose: maybe your body is starting to get tired by not getting in all the nutrition that it needs. If you haven’t been eating any red meats in 5 years I wouldn’t be surpized if you have some iron deficiency, like I do. Actually it would be amazing if your iron and blood levels are normal.
(sorry for the rambling…)
I’m pretty sure the last time I got a blood test my blood counts were normal, but I’m pretty sure that was before this year’s training started. I had an iron deficiency when I was little so I am always careful to take a good multi-vit and whatnot. I actually stopped eating meat entirely 5 years ago, ate fish pretty soon afterwards because I wasn’t getting enough protein, and it wasn’t until last year that I started eating chicken again. It did help my strength levels.
Strangely enough I was in a similar situation last summer and face it periodically still- I developed a mild eating disorder combined with compulsive exercise and got really skinny (under 120 lbs at 5’6) but my maxes in the weight room went up (I was doing mostly upper because of my ankle injury) and I had never felt so strong. I gained some weight when I came to school and BAM my performance has gone to hell… it’s hard to look at the other factors and ignore the one that I’m super-sensitive to.
I try to eat clean and eat balanced, and the shakes I think will help with the protein cravings. It is just such a tricky issue.
my 7am workout today:
I was pretty damn sore from the lower lift yesterday so this was definitely a burner:
-full WU, sprint drills (long), 3x50 buildups
-1x400, 1 min rest, 1x200, 1 min. rest, 1x200. 10 min. rest, then a second set of the same thing. These were meant to be a little faster than our 800 pace.
The first set I hit pretty much on: 71-35-35 for a 2:21 (PR is 2:26) The second set I was hurting a lot, went 76-38-38 for a 2:34. Was pretty miserable afterwards, but it could have been worse… maybe :eek: I can’t even remember the last time I did a workout like this so it was nice to be running again. I ate only a little thing of applesauce beforehand- I am accustomed to eating breakfast before I do anything, even a workout like that, but I was glad I didn’t have anything there to puke.
-jogged a couple laps easy, did “special walk” series- things like toe raises, toes in and out, etc. for ankles and shins and to stretch out the feet.
break for a small breakfast, quick and easy lift
-some of the lifts are kind of hard to describe, but the lift was basically 3 reps of two 3-exercise super-sets just like the lower body one, but this one was for bi’s and tri’s
-15 min. easy biking, protein+carb shake
-15 min. in the 50 degree whirpool up to my ribs- was pretty damn cold afterwards and lay in my bed shaking for half an hour before I gave in and took a shower… hopefully didn’t negate all the effects of the cold. stetched afterwards and had a small lunch and now I am ready to pass out 
still pretty sore, but i got some solid sleep and didn’t drink last night, which helped. I actually fell on my face yesterday coming back to my room because i was sore and numb from the whirlpool, i felt really stupid
-30 min. under water jogging in the pool, then long stretching, felt great afterwards
field team fun ohhhh college
Lol… I used to be a drunken mess in college too… It looks like you girls are having a bit too much fun. Keep the beer funneling to a minimum
I spent 2 years drunk on my unversity team, Then i quit/got kicked off and im never looking back. Best thing that ever happend to me. lol
The photos of me from2 years ago and now say enuff infact
lol
no worries… i actually don’t like beer. unlike field hockey which partied every weekend, track only throws 3 big parties the entire year, so we go all out when we get the chance. normally i go out drinking maybe every 2 weeks, if that.
had a small protein shake this morning (like half a scoop) and went on the elliptical for half an hour… still trying to loosen up that last bit of soreness.
why didnt you use a HUGE scoop???
(you may use ‘horrible taste’ as an excuse…but nothing else)
Sometimes a huge scoop in the AM can have a terrible effect on your stomach. I myself liek to break up one serving into two quite often.
the question was kinda rhetorical. im encouraging her to eat more. 
yeah… i didn’t want to have too much because i knew i was going to eat breakfast soon after and would be having a shake after my lift. I only opted for it in the first place because on another thread about exercising on an empty stomach in the morning, a concern was raised about catabolism… not that i was doing an all-out workout, but you can never be too careful.
-30 min. AM elliptical
practice at 4:15: very fast-paced, the guy I was training with wanted to get through it quick:
-full WU, dynamic hurdle drills, sprint drills
-multi-throw series w/heavy shot
-accel series- all those drills where you roll over and go, pushup and go, etc etc. a pretty long list, fairly tiring.
-multi-jump series into the pit
-jav tech drills w/pins
straight to lifting, i was hungry by then
-trap bar deads: 4-6 w/low grip, straight into 4-6/max at high grip, with a 24 second negative on the last rep. 4 sets, 3 min. between them. I did all 4 at 8 reps, 70k. Last week I ended at 75, but I had also started out a lot lower.
-single leg calf-press 2x10@90lbs
-tibia raises 2x10 @23lbs
went to the trainer and rolled around on a biofoam roller for a while which felt really really good on my legs. I located the most tender of all tender spots that ever existed on my hamstring so i focused on that for a while and iced it afterwards.
-went to the pool for 20 min. of aqua-jogging after dinner to flush the system
for interested parties, my diet today:
-1/2 scoop protein powder shake
-1/2 apple with natural peanut butter, 4 or 5 pineapple chunks, green tea, multi-vit, calcium supp, flax oil, water
-small cup of chicken salad, cup of lentil soup, small bowl of salad (baby spinach, baby mushrooms, 2 cucumber slices, 2 baby corns, 2 pieces of cauliflower, a couple spoonfuls of normal corn), 2 glasses of water
-1 kiwi
-post-lift shake: 1.5 scoops whey protein, 1 scoop endurox (carbs)
-small bowl of plain tuna+ chickpeas, 1 serving of green peas, 5 or 6 bites of mushroom soup, 2 glasses of water, cup of decaf tea, multi-vit, calcium supp, flax oil
-about 1/4 cup of lowfat cottage cheese, another cup of tea
and thats all, folks
The protein and carbs really reduces my appetite for the next meal, even though I waited for 75 minutes in between the shake and dinner I just wasn’t that hungry, plus they didn’t have any chicken for me and there was nothing else I could eat :mad:
I know I’m a bit late, but this is one hell of a detailed journal! Nice work.
Kras I have to ask after reading your journal, why do you do so much cross training like bike eliptical etc…? Other then for injury rehab i dont ever recall charlie on his tapes and van seminar promoting cross training of that sorts. Its counter productive to the running motion. Plus why wouldout more just cause you feel u have energy left? I mean you seem to have injuries problems sometime and i know the performance frustrations. But I think your probably fighting some cns conflict with red and white fibre from all the cross training. Doing a sprint workout on a bike is only usefull insofar as for a tempo not a sprint workout. We’re sprinter so why not sprint not do less sprinting.
Just my observations not really saying it might not work for you!
zenoth- as you may have gathered i have a mild recurring eating disorder, characterized mainly by compulsive exercise and not as much by severely restricting my diet. Its sort of a way to feel like I have some measure of control over my life when things are rough, like right now. It comes and goes, and to an extent I just have to take it in stride.
-am 20 min. elliptical
mid-morning lift:
-close-grip parallel chins straight to lat pulldowns, 90s rest, top half incline press straight to 1+1/4 DB bench, 90s rest then start over and do it 4 times. This was actually kind of fun, I had an easier time with it than last week.
chins 3x4, 1x2
lats 4x6@90lbs
incline 2x6@40k, 1x6, 1x4 @45k
DB bench 2x6@50, 2x6@45 lbs
-lateral raises 3x10@10 lbs paired with
-cuban presses 1x8 @20k, 2x10@ 15k
-short abs
had my shake 
1.5 scoops whey protein, 1 scoop endurox… i feel like 2 scoops is a lot except for maybe days where we do one of the harder lifts and run in the same day. Then went to the trainer and did a bit of biofoam on my legs and also my lower back which has been pretty tight and tender. Iced my hamstring again.
prac at 4:15:
-WU, hurdle mobility and hurdle drills, no sprint drills
-HJ approach run-throughs then 4 scissors, 6 jumps. felt kind of flat, not surprising after lifting legs.
-20 min very easy bike (70-80 rpms, level 1) after dinner because my butt is tight and HJ didn’t do all that much to loosen me up.
Also modelled for 2 hrs, but sat for 1/2 hour of it. My back hurts
As far as diet goes, I have eliminated bread, rice, pasta, cereal, dessert, and any meat except for fish and chicken (which I was already doing.) This can get tricky with the limited food in the dining hall, but I am doing the best that I can… I am curious to see if high-protein+ selective-carb thing works as well as people seem to think it does. My one possible exception to the ban on all things grain-related might be oatmeal.
Diet was pretty similar to yesterday:
8:45: 1 serving egg whites, 1/2 apple +nat. PB & raisins, green tea, water, multivit, calcium, flax oil
11:30: 1 kiwi, water
12:45: protein+carb shake post-lift
2:00: small cup of chicken salad, cup of vegetable soup (vegan), small salad (spinach, mushroom, cucumber, carrots), 2 glasses water, tea
4:00: 1/2 banana, water
6:00: post-workout: 1 piece of chicken (it didn’t seem little, but it was a lot smaller once i picked all the fried parts off it!), serving of black-eyed peas, a few steamed veggies, 1/2 banana+ nat PB, 2 glasses of water, cup of tea, multivit, calcium, flax oil
9:45: about 1/4 cup lowfat cottage cheese, water
I don’t really intend to start posting my diet every day, this is just to give an idea of what I’m having and to give a chance to point out any major flaws. I’m interested in upping my protein uptake maybe by adding another (maybe smaller) protein shake somewhere during the day or at night when I get hungry but I don’t really know much about proper placement and timing… there is probably a thread about it somewhere here
Hopefully I didn’t offend u didn’t mean to at all. Just observing. Btw why cutout pasta and chicken? botha re gerat for carbs and protien. I know the down feeling though i nearly quit track a year ago