Krasnayafleur's training #2

Dont get down Kras, it’ll come together.

Dont worry about your BW at this point, you are probably putting on muscle. University is a big adjustment, just keep working hard, eating, sleeping right and you’ll do fine :slight_smile:

Cheers,
Chris

wow can i actually post again…? :eek: amazing

I am so frustrated with track I can’t even begin to explain…

I have no hurdle coach- I came to this school to hurdle, primarily. I was baited with the coach they had last year- an olympian from jamaica- and they conveniently forgot to mention to me when i visited last year that he was leaving. I have an old guy who gives us bizarre drills from the 70s, tells us the workout, and doesn’t do any timing, no filming, no correction, no coaching of any kind. I only hurdle twice a week and it is useless. I have actually injured my trail leg knee doing it… and then my head coach has the balls to ask why I hurdled 8.3 in high school and I have hurdled 9.1 three times in a row here. WHY COULD THAT BE, YOU FUCKER?!

Not to mention that I dsperately miss running and I just want to run 2’s and 4’s… PLEASE. I have done two running workouts in the past week which felt GREAT. I don’t understand why the coaches insist on having NO crossover between field and sprinters. Yes the training is different… but I CAN RUN. It’s a waste for me not to do it!!

I jumped 5’0.25 which is sort of ok… my PR is 5’3. Long jump has been 2 feet under my PR so far, and shot is the only thing I have PRed in at all. I ran 10 seconds slower than my PR in the 800 the other day. I am just so frustrated and unhappy because I am working hard even though I’m angry about where I am, and I have been eating well and getting rest and something is just wrong.

Yesterday at MIT I did 6 events in one meet… in the space of 75 minutes. The week before I did 5. And my coach treats me like crap and won’t talk to me if I don’t hit certain marks in every single one… he has said himself that he cares first and foremost about winning. So NEVERMIND if I am drinking exclusively to get drunk because I am so unhappy, NEVERMIND if I had a panic attack and started crying in the middle of the night and NEVERMIND if I have been wearing long sleeves to practice so that no one asks questions…

The field coach is a great guy and a very very good coach… but I just don’t know. I’m not a big crier at all, but thinking about this just starts the tears going. Running workouts included 10x200 one day, and another day 8x150, and the workouts went so well… I just want that back. I know people have trouble transitioning to college track sometimes, but I didn’t know it would be like THIS. Not to mention that my parents and I had another big falling out, I am totally broke, blah blah blah

I am running hurdles and high jumping at the boston indoor games at reggie lewis next friday night… pretty much all D1 schools except for us, and ridiculously competitive. Very elite compared to what I am used to… and running the way I am I will be embarrassed.

:frowning: :frowning: :frowning:

did part of your journal get deleted?

i think i lost a few posts and i couldn’t post for a week… dunno why

couldn’t sleep last night but i feel a little bit better today.

early practice:
-long WU, sprint drills, dynamic hurdle mobility
-10x30m accels dragging a weighted sled, short rest
-multi jump series into the pit w/X-vest
-multi throw series w/9.5k shot

lift:
-mid grip bench: buildup to 3-rep max and from there do one-reps up to max: 3x30k, 32.5, 35,37.5, 40. 1x42.5, 45, 46. Last time I did this lift I failed at 46 and this time I got it alright. I might have been able to do one more rep, but I had no one to spot me and I didn’t really want to drop it.
-10x1 parallel thick bar chins: 2 min between reps, 2.5k plate hanging off a belt. Did 7 reps w/2.5k, and 3 reps w/2k.

Went to the trainer and did 20 min of stim+ice on my right knee and left shin. I am ready for a nap… :cool:

Kras,

Are you forced into training with the group? What are your core events going to be? If you are a hurdle and 200/400 specialist screw the field training if possible and get on the track like you used to :slight_smile:

You know your body and what works best for you. 10x200 sounds like a TON of volume if it isnt ext tempo. What does a sample micro (week) look like? Could you write up a brief description?
For example:
1 short speed/weights
2 ext tempo
3 hurdle technique/mobility/weights
4 hills
5 pool
6 SE2
7 rest

Cheers,
Chris

I am forced into this training group. There is no crossover between field and sprinters- if you do field events, you train with field, and you do not run sprint events. The field coach is great, except that he refuses to compromise on this issue. I am a hurdle and 200/400 specialist, but I am also a good jumper and the pentathlon is what I place best in on the national level. Head coach thinks the greatest potential for our team to win new england’s is if I go multi, since after the top 5 the quality of the event drops off. The original plan was for me to do the pent, open hurdles, and be an alternate on relays… who knows what it is now. I just want to RUN. I got almost 800 points in the 800m last year in the pent which was pretty significant- my highest scoring event after the hurdles.

My training schedule is kind of bizarre- I don’t exactly know how to classify some of the things we do and it changes week to week, but ROUGHLY:

Mon: Accel work (resistance runs), short speed, upper lift
Tues: hurdles, HJ technique, oly + lower lifts
Wed: LJ tech, shot tech, speed endurance (i.e. 10x200 @800 pace)
Thurs: hurdles, HJ tech, upper lift
Fri: LJ tech, shot tech, speed endurance (i.e. 8x150 @pace), oly+ lower lifts light and fast
Sat: comp OR accel/short speed (weighted sleds, stadium runs)
Sun: rest
-Each day we do multi-throw (med balls or shots) and multi-jump series (w/X-vest or flat), hurdle mobility, and core work. It changes week to week but you get the idea.

Head coach is sprint coach and a big volume guy, so IF I were still training there it would be something like this:

-AM- short speed, blocks, core. PM: speed endurance (i.e. repeat 6x400, 8x300… long stuff) handoffs, full body lift
-This is basically the pattern for the whole week, but they do only three lifts and have pool work on sundays. Off day changes week to week.

Had a long convo with my head coach from HS who I am very close with. He made me feel a bit better and said that he has no doubt that I will get the hurdling back without a problem, but I am having a hard time being confident. :frowning:

started feeling like I was getting sick last night- short of breath, heart pounding (102 bpm sitting at my desk) so I got a pretty good night of sleep. I felt ok during the day, but started feeling less than 100% as practice wore on, and now I feel off again. Had another fight with my dad… it could be a panic attack, or I could be overtraining somehow. Doing all the resistance work yesterday really wiped me out.

As for today:
-full WU, hurdle drills
-3x5 hurdles jammed in, fast out of blocks. These felt good, somewhat quicker than I have been lately. Head coach wants me to improve efficiency over the hurdle, which is something I had to pay a lot of attention to in HS. I tend to straighten my lead leg to be as low as possible over the hurdle, but having it bent will actually make it quicker to touch down. I improved this last year, but I guess I’ve been reverting to the old way and I need to go back to working on that.

-long HJ practice- approach drills, jumps, clearance drills
-we were supposed to do 5x250, but the three of us (multis) all felt like crap so our coach agreed to move the run to tommorow, which is usually our throwing/easy day.

lifts:
-snatch shrugs: 2x6@40k, 4x6@42.5 paired with (10s between)
-snatches 6x4@26. I have a lot of trouble with these- you would think that with my clean and squat weights I’d be able to do a lot more weight.

-weak leg single leg squats (right leg) w/back foot elevated: 1x6@32.5k, 1x6@35k, 1x6@37.5k paired with
-glute/ham raise: 3x6
-strong leg single leg squats: 3x6@ 32.5, 35, 37.5 paired with
-glute/ham raises: 3x6 w/5k plate

Iced my knee which got ripped apart during one of the hurdle drills, and iced my left shin. Shin problems haven’t been bad, it just this one 2 or 3 inch section of my jumping leg which hurts to the touch, but I am used to this problem. It usually stays for a few days and with the right care from me it goes away again. Since it is not directly on the bone it is not too worrisome. Just another reason to be glad that we pushed the run to tommorow.

what a weird workout

-full warmup +sprint drills
-loooooong med-ball drills for shot and jav
-long jav technique session w/med balls

This stuff really wears on me more than I realize… hurling the 3k medball around doesn’t seem like a big deal, but doing set after set after set after set… it accumulates.

-went to do speed endurance that we pushed from yesterday: 5x250 fast, 4 min. between. This is where the day got strange- I went 38,37,38,40,44. I started out feeling ok, but I guess my legs were pretty flat from the lift yesterday because the burn kicked in, and after the fourth one I started to cry… I am not a big crier, I don’t complain during practice, and I always give everything I have in a workout. The actual pain of the workout was manageable, I think I was crying more from the buildup of stress and from fighting with my dad. He has been very harsh and I haven’t let myself think about it or deal with it because I just don’t want to waste my time. Anyway my coach offered to let me sit the last one out, but I ran it anyway.

-cooldown and long stretch- I have been neglecting stretching for a long time.
-ice and very high +intense stim on my knee and shin for 20 min.

Who cries during a workout?! I must really be going over the edge.

had some good hurdle work yesterday, even though the night before there was a raging party directly outside my door until 4am.

-WU and hurdle drills instead of sprint drills
-1x1, 1x2, 1x3, 1x5 hurdles at regulation

There is a senior hurdler who I should be able to beat by a lot, but so far in races she has been edging me out by a tenth or two. Yesterday I had so much caffeine that I was buzzing around and beat her for the first three reps. When we did 5, I was so far ahead that she bailed out after the third hurdle rather than be beaten. haha

I was meant to do some long jump stuff, but my jumping shin was hurting a lot and I am competing tonight… so I watched some film instead and then went for a quick lift:

-mid-grip bench light and fast then 3 heavier singles, 1 min. between sets: 8x3 @30k, 1x37.5, 1x42.5, 1x45
-sternum chins, single reps w/1 min. between, then 2 heavier sets: 8x1, 2x2

Went and got 10min stim+ice on my shin and knee, had some pain last night but now it feels pretty good. I’m competing TONIGHT in HJ and hurdles- this meet probably has the highest level of competition I’ve ever been in. I am home until next wed night… we are having a few recovery days so I will get a bit of a break. My parents are still angry, I’m sure it will be a very pleasant time.

GOOD LUCK!!! Sounds like a hard workout before a meet! :slight_smile:

Cheers,
Chris

i can’t take it anymore

i don’t know what the problem is, i don’t know why i can’t perform. I train very hard, I focus and I don’t fuck around, yet I just can’t put it together.

I ran 8.36 for 55m hurdles in HS once, but I was consistent 5 or 6 races in a row at 8.6 and there is no reason that I should be stuck at fucking 9.1 in college, I don’t care about adjustment and volume and everything else- 9.1 is RIDICULOUS. Same with HJ- I no-heighted at 5’… I could clear 5’ when I was a goddamn sophomore and didn’t even have a coach for the event, and now… I’m a mess.

I want to trust my field coach, but it is so hard not to give up when my head coach has already given up on me. Earlier this year he would tell people that I was going to be his star, and today all he said was ‘I guess you’re just not fast anymore’ and turned his back. I had to go off by myself and cry.

I did bother to ice my shin (feeling better) and knee and stay to watch the rest of the meet, then went and cried for a long time… and probably I will break down again before I can go to sleep. I guess it doesn’t help that I don’t feel welcome in my own home either.

I have reached a snapping point… something is so wrong

why did i come to place that i did not want to come to?

hey, i was at this meet too :wink: competition was tough…why was southern florida there? they flat out beat everyone

sounds to me like you need to drop the field and stay in sprints/hurdles. what was that about 3 practices a day? thats not gonna work. id say more, but it probably isnt my place.

also your head coach sounds like an ass.

Hi Krasnayafleur,
I’ve been reading your log for a while. I think I’ve been in the same situation as you…I ran some decent times when I was junior girl and then went to University, which changes your whole lifestyle!

I put on weight and lost my speed. After some months I got my act together and lost the weight but I had also completely lost my speed. I was totally devastated because I’d spent so long getting back in shape and was actually running slower! I literally went from running 7.7 to 8.3s for the 60m from 1 season to the next because my coach had put me on 400/800 training and taken me off weights to make me lose weight :frowning: .

Anyway, I realised that it was the training, not me anymore that was causing the problem (I admit it was me at first as I was too heavy). I changed coach and have never been happier with training- :smiley: I love going again and the effort I put in is positive and not “whats the point anymore, I’ve obviously lost my speed”. After 6 months doing training that suits me I have brought my time back down to 7.8s and can’t wait for the outdoor season.

The point I’m trying to make is don’t stagnate in your training because you think it’s your fault if you’re putting in complete effort all the time. Do what you need to do for yourself before you’ve lost 1 year…then 2 years to performances you’re not proud of.

Good luck :slight_smile:

the next few days are supposed to be resting time so I only have a couple workouts I have to do. Field coach told me I can do a hurdle workout and some other things as well if i want, but he knows I “have the mentality” to go out and do too much and he made me promise to take it easy.

I wish I could train the way I did in HS because it got me great results and I always peaked at the right times. But not only is there NO crossover between sprinting and field, I also really have no choice about what I want to do. I have no idea if I could ask about changing groups, but since I was placed where I am without being asked, it’s probably not likely I could change anything. Logically it makes sense that I should train as a pentathlete since it was my national event last year… I don’t know, I feel like I go in circles with the back and forth arguments again and again.

thanks cazzie… i am really discouraged and embarrassed and just at a loss.

supposed to be another off day. I am starting to go stir crazy and i just want to run. The time off is probably good for my shin and knee which is what is keeping me from doing a workout.

I have been sleeping a LOT since my goddamn roommate and everyone else are not here to wake me up. This morning i dragged myself out of bed at 12 and that is the earliest morning i have had so far.

still feel really really down :frowning:

i say u should focus on ur training and not worry about the times. sometimes ppl have a crap season, so wat? if there is something seriosuly wrong in your trainng then go back to ur journal and see wats going on. hows ur fitness, technique … track is a flippin hard sport, and the more work u put it the harder it is to surrender, god knows how much ive struggled, injuries every season for the past 2yrs, (wasted my junior yrs) but i got over it, and so should you. be strong now and dont start falling apart.
good luck
komy

thanks komy… i can use all the enouragement i can get- I’ve been really down the past few days. I talked to my HS coaches which has been helpful- one of them was an all-american distance runner in high school and had trouble transitioning to college running as well, and told me to be an athlete and use my focus and tough it out. So I am going to try my best.

Took the weekend off as I was ordered to do, then today did a workout:

-full WU, spint drills, hurdle mobility
-3x5 hurdles down and in just to feel the quickness
-1x1, 1x2, 1x3 @regulation

  • 5x (1 min on @800 pace, 3 min jog)
    -medball multi-throw series
    -quick core set

Did everything with no pain to the shin or knee, but iced afterwards anyway.

woke up not feeling so great

Today is a jump rope workout which I will do on my trampoline to save my shin, and also because I have no idea where my rope went. Otherwise I took a long walk with my dog and inhaled a lot of dust getting rid of all the useless crap I have lying around and packing up the other stuff. My family is moving for the second time in a year- I guess it is helpful that a lot of my stuff is at school.

Going back to school tommorow, practice and second semester start thurs, so tomm might be my second hurdle day for the week. Can’t wait to get back in the weight room.

started coughing like mad so didn’t end up doing much today. Was pretty busy packing and stirring up dust.

just for fun and to torture myself, I calculated my potential heptathlon score using my high school PR’s of: 15.1 hurdles, 5’3 HJ, 17’2 LJ, 26.2 for 200m, 29’8 shot, 90’ jav, 2:26 for 800m. This comes to 4,579.

The olympic trial B standard for heptath is 5, 475. That is only 896 points… i.e. over 100 pts per event! My HS coach is cracked, but I guess you never know. Maybe he is right and I should run the 400 hurdles, except that stuck where I am I probably won’t be able to.