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Ugh, this is a tough question. This may be a case where it’s necessary to take a step or two back to take several forward. I’m going to email you.

i agree with rj, once you take the weight and are about to go Downwards, your hips rotate drastically (sticking your butt out, creating lower back arch) This you want to avoid, Hold your abs tight to keep you hips from rotating back like that. Then that combined with the massive Lean forward of the upper body is what is Killing the Crap out of your Lower back. I dont think i would know of anybody who would not get a sore lower back doing ya squats that way.

One way to correct the Upper body forward lean, is to squat just 2inches away from a Post. Set a broom handle down infront of post to square your Feet, then back off 2inches. Then when you squat, look for the following

  • your nose remains infront of post and doesnt Wrap around the side of the post.
  • your feet remain flat on floor
  • your toes remain just slightly pointed out
  • your knees dont drift past your toes

when 1st doing it, hold onto the post with your hands
then

  • have your hands beside the post without touching it
  • have your hands beside you
  • have your hands on your head
  • do the squat with a bar

Then, you can move right over to the squat rack.
Depending on how long that takes, it may be useful to use that as a warm up for some time?

Oh yeah, also perhaps set up a small bench or medball where your butt can just touch so your get Deeper in your squats. Not to sit on, just to Feel your at the correct depth.

Some ppl get this right in 10min. Others can take weeks. Typically, the longer it takes, the Tighter You are. If you are tight, the squat will tell you exactly where you are, esp if you do a Squat HOld at the very bottom position. And often, lets say your Hip Flexors are tight, and you fix them, you do the squat hold again, and Hip Flexors feel better, but now your Glutes are tight, and so on and so forth.

I hope that makes sence. If done correctly, and you listen to the Squat Hold at correct posture at parallel position, i have never had it fail.

I suggest your knees are going too far forward, don’t let them get in front of your toes, if possible no further forward than the ball of foot.

Thanks for the input, in my defence I did post some squats weren’t pretty I hadn’t videoed any this year and it was worse than I expected. In part that is because I had got into

http://stronglifts.com/why-your-lower-back-rounds-during-squats-how-to-fix-it/

Bold I can do all that holding the post only at this stage.

RJ has kindly sent some stuff to consider as well.

Gee more shit to sort out :rolleyes:

here is some bar only stuff from today which is a rest day

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcecgSAPIPk

overhead squats show my back rounding / flexibility issues and squats are to a box which I will probably use for a fair while. Johnnie Be Good seemed an apt choice for the Black Comedy that is my training. To be honest right now after this squat debacle I’m a bit flat. :o EVERYTHING seems f*&*&d up with my training!!!

Although in both videos you have the tendency to start going up with your hips first instead of your chest (especially with the heavier loads), I agree that the old form is much better/safer in my eyes! I don’t see any major issues with your knees (?). Overall, use the right loads and technique, simple! I am sure you can feel/see what these are… :slight_smile:

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hows the back

good as gold thanks and has been apart from a minor tweak a few (4-5 :confused:) weeks ago but that only lasted a few days. Achilles has been good as well, will probably start tempo runs this week.