Gatlin with Seagrave in Fla.

Bolt would have been at most 19 years old at the time versus Gatlin 4 or so years older, BIG difference.

Time will tell how he goes and hopefully he can step up, the more competition the better.

That said how many have come back from bans and competed at the same or better level as before over 100-200m? :confused:

I know who Seagrave is, however the article implied that he would not be the only coach training him…“operated locally by NFL Combine guru Derek Touchette”. that is who my statement reffered to

I spoke to Seagrave and hes the only coach training gatlin at this time. Maybe the other guy is Gatlin weightlifting coach…

If you spoke to him, Ask him about Gatlin’s form in present time…

Your question is too general get a little more specific…

ok… Times over 50m or some practice times. Weight lifting and so on… Would be good to know :slight_smile: Thanx…

I’ll see what I can get, should have some information by Wednesday.

cool, would be great! :slight_smile:

Rana Reider used to be the jumps coach at Florida.

The thing I’ll never understand in american sports is how one can earn so much money, and be broke the year after…with all the money he got in 2004 2005, I could live comfortably for at least 20 years…

I was going to ask the same question but then I’ve read your response. I could not agree more. Even if he had to pay his lawyers he would not have spent it all on them to be in a situation where he would rely on the unemployment benefits.

I guess lifestyle plays a big role in it as well as being from “spending” nation, and not “saving” nation.

We could take Mike Tyson as well. You really have to be either reckless or dumb to blow $300M and go bust. With one million dollars one could live comfortably without working a single day for the rest of his life (an in a western country).

Yes Sevastocrator…when I hear such stories I’'ll kindly advise them to go work in a copper mine…or wherever similar…maybe they’ll appreciate more what they got. I do not want to be a populist or something like that, I adimire athletes in general for what they have from below the neck…Never envyed one for what is over …

NAw these athletes have to live like the rappers they see on tv. Even if most of the rappers are putting on a front for the camera. Some people just cant handle money.

Doesn’t this just reflect the rest of society? I mean the savings rate in the US and other western countries has been declining rapidly and has actually gone negative in some instances.

lol, and many people (including myself at one point) think that image is real. I found out in the initial stages of people like Jayz and biggie the jewelry, homes and other lavish things were all RENTED!!

As far as the guys who can afford it, I think they are crazy to wear 200k of jewelry in the streets. It’s a good way to loose your life because somebody WILL jack you for it.

It does. The U.S. economy is based on spending and consumption! Conversely, the Asians do a VERY good job in saving their money and starting businesses that we all patron in one way or the other. I met some VERY wealthy Asians in California and I can assure you they are in a league of their own as far as handling money.

A good book to read about all this is The Millionaire Next Door.

I saw a really good documentary on Mike Tyson. MT just was not capable to handle money like that (which is not a problem if you have good people around you).

Anyhow, what screwed him was when he switched to the scum don king and then got involved with Mrs. Givens the gold digger.

Sometimes you just can’t do it all, I mean, MT in the “89” shape was the greatest fighter EVER (yea, he was!) and he got to that point partly because HE DID NOTHING ELSE BUT PRACTICE BOXING so it’s just sad to see that after his first mentor died nobody could step in to look after him and his money.

Remember also that boxing is a shady dirty business anyway…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZdu3PsjuWA&feature=related

You clearly don’t understand the magnitude of legal hassles put in front of Gatlin (and anyone else) in a bid to return. Legal bills can easily top 200,000 a month when fighting a case. How long can that be sustained? This is why the individual is so weak relative to a big organization with TV revenue that can make up the rules as they go along. His choice was to husband his winnings and stay out permanently or try to come back. The probable best choice was to stay out but wishful thinking coupled with advice from those who will send him a big bill if he fights influence things.

In Gatlin case you may be right, but there are so many sportsman who got broke…even without issues with the law…( well, often other issues…no sporting ones)…to Gatlin , good luck!!

Charlie, I am well aware how high legal bills could go. The issue here is;

You clearly don’t understand the magnitude of legal hassles put in front of Gatlin (and anyone else) in a bid to return

You and I are equally speculating whether Gatlin has spent xxx (less) or xyz (more) on the legal bills. I do not know the figure. Do you?

Blowing over a million USD and going broke tells me a lot about Gatlin or anyone for that matter. I do not have anything against him but I do not feel sorry (financially) for him at all. I would feel the same for anyone else who could blow such amount or more.

I am familiar with legal costs because I work for some of the top Lawyers in Canada and US costs will not be lower. Try to work out the hours required to fight for years as Gatlin has done to get back. First he was banned forever, then 7 years ,then, well who knows. Every step requires a legal response and many follow ups to get a counter-response from an opponant with deep pockets that hopes Gatlin will curl up and die to save them from reinstating him and, with it, the embarassment of reminding the public that they made him a poster boy as the new “clean” athlete, proving drugs are unnecessary before it all went to hell.