Anyone know anything about seal oil? I hear it is even more beneficial to health than fish oil.
clemson, curious about the coconut oil- where you get yours?
i already take flax and fish oils, and add olive oil… curious as to what ratios you should try and balance the oils sources…
airbourne,
when in the day is the oatbar consumed. pre-workout carb source?
I told Airbourne to take it post workout.
Thanks Clemson.
This leads into another question (doesn’t it always!)
Post- Tempo Nutrition
There isn’t the need for the insulin spike of Post Workout Drinks but still a need for Glycogen (sp?) replenisment. Is there where the Oatbar comes in?
Airbourne and Clemson - appreciate the responses.
I don’t think there is an absolute need for glycogen post tempo - protein will be used as glycogen if carbs are not present.
Personally I would reccomened based on %BdFat and the intensity of the session.
Assuming the tempo is l;ow intenisty and the BdyFt% is Over 12 or 14% drop the carbs - under 12% - Carbs could be used, but I would still keep them v. low.
post tempo i just take half my typical post workout shake. around 50g carbs and 25g protein, mainly cause i need the calories right after workout and it starts the regeneration process.
I have never heard fats being in green leafy veggies before.
fats are found as cell walls…they act as a bi-layer to protect the plant. Trace amounts…olives and avacodos…
One thing I’ve noticed after taking Sears Labs fish oil (800mgDHA/1600mgEPA) for a year is that it causes me to get nosebleeds easily, and they are very difficult to stop… presumably, this is due to the reduced platelet aggrigation associated with the production of “good” eicosanoids (which is supposed to be the main benefit of fish oil)
(I edited this to make it a little easier to understand. Apologies if I was not clear initially, or if I still am not clear…)
Key points to keep in mind:
PgX-1 and PgX-3 series are generally anti-inflammatory; where X=E,G,F, etc. The most populare being the “E” series.
PgX-2 is pro-inflammatory.
The key is successful balancing of the Prostaglandins. This suggestion is kind of like asking an athlete on a roll to take a week off training to recuperate - it never happens and, inevitably, the athlete comes back with complaints (overtraining).
People are usually over-exuberant when it comes to omega-3 and omega-6 supplementation and inevitably suffer from elevated lipid peroxides and resultant oxidative damage. Not good. Solution: take Vitamin E whenever you take EFA’s.
EFA’s to take:
Flax oil will encourage PgX-3 series of anti-inflammatory mediators, or if Zinc or Magnesium are low, will not be able to gain access to PgX-3 (from EicosaPentanoic Acid - or EPA). In the case that you may have deficiencies of Zinc or Magnesium, go to fish oils and by-pass the enzymatic step that requires Zn or Mg. Fish oils provide EPA straight-up.
Evening primrose, or (even better) black currant oil, will shore up Dihomogamma linolenic acid (DGLA), which produces the PgX-1 series.
Animal fats tend to be abundant in the diets of most athletes, and force PgX-2 series (pro-inflammatory) to be the predominant factor.
…clues every dedicated athlete should keep in mind:
Here’s an illustrated example of low DGLA and relative highs in saturated/arachidonic fats (notice the borderline high lipid peroxides, as well -probably the result of low-normal vitamin E). This is a good candidate for chronic inflammation:
??? 
Dr. Hollis,
So what are you trying to tell us?
<Best Gary Coleman impression>
“… What you talking 'bout Dr. Hollis…”
OK Seriously - This is what I take from it …
1.
Take Vitamin E whenever you take EFA’s.
2.
Evening primrose, or Black currant oil MAY help facilitate EFA’s in treating inflamation
The important points are:
-
Most people take EFAs for arbitrary reasons. It’s hard to really know if you’re EFA deficient without actually doing a test that clearly shows a deficiency. From my experience, the kinds of symptoms a doctor (or a patient, for that matter) would look for in the case of an EFA deficiency can mean so many different things that it’s hard to assume that EFA’s are the answer - it could be Vitamin A, Vitamin C, fatty acid malabsorption disorders… I’ve fallen upon testing as the only way to really know what’s going on.
-
Take Vitamin E when taking EFAs (thanks for the vote of confidence, no23)
-
If you DO test, flax/hemp oil or fish oil is good if there is a preponderance of omega-3 fatty acid deficiency. Evening primrose and Black currant oil are good in situations where you have a specific type of omega-6 deficiency (look for deficient levels of DGLA). Most people don’t have too much difficulty getting enough LNA (omega-6) because corn oil and other common vegetable oils are so common in our diet, but converting that LNA into something metabolically useful is a challenge for some. As a result, they simply can’t convert their corn oils into the really good EFAs, like DGLA, and never reap the benefits - enter evening primrose and black currant. Does that help make sense of stuff?
** Most of you have probably not had an opportunity to view a test. I figured it would help to see a sample to help assimilate my complicated jargon 
(see above)
In the example above:
The point about DGLA that I just wrote about is taken literally. This person has perfectly fine levels of #5,6, and 7 (refer to the numbers in the diagram from last submission I made, above) - which are all omega-6 fatty acids. #5 (LNA)is the most raw form. The action of enzymes builds this basic omega-6 fatty acid into the more evolved forms of omega-6 fats that we use to make our anti-inflammatory prostaglandins. And then, “boom” #8 (DGLA) falls right off the map and then bounces back with #9 (Arachidonic Acid). The reason is simple: Arachidonic acid is very abundant in meat, but DGLA is not easily found in common foods and is hard for this person’s body to make from raw omega-6 from corn (etc.) oils. This person needs evening primrose or black currant oil - it’s clear from this test. It would be difficult to be sure from patient complaints, alone to know this.
Clemson,
What would be the ulitmate way to consume all types of fat/oil/specfic FAs?
*Coconut Oil - high in MCT, high in luaric acid for health benefits
*Fish Oil (sears lab but 50 bucks…), what about canned red salmon? is once a day good enough?
*Flax Oil (YUK) - high ratio of 3s to 6s
*Hemp Oil - better balanced of omega 3-6-9 if not consuming too much *omega 6s from elsewhere, tastes better than flax oil.
*Udo’s Choice - ratio of 3s to 6s is 2:1, wierd tasting
*Borage Oil - high in GLA? when taken with flaxt o balance out ratio of 3s:6s
*Primose evening - high in GLA? when taken with flax to balance out ratio of 3s:6s
*Black Curant - high in GLA? when taken with flax to balance out ratio of 3s:6s
The supplement tree part two will have two parts (antioxidants and then efa’s)…most of my articles are just collections of data from bright people (read stolen) so dumb dumbs like me can remember what to do without secret russian tables. This will take time because my website guy is too busy and I am stuck doing everything myself. LIFE IS HELL.
Lab lounge members are getting the ROM G.R.I.D on flexibility with the pevious module updated in a printer friendly format. Great stuff though…all 9 types of pnf Isom,isoton, rel, passive, etc. as well as movemment repatterning stuff…later will have a photo guide for those that aren’t familiar with different stretching modes.
Good list…I will have to get the ball rolling. Now to get my email list sent out…the members might think I am in the islands…thank you all for your patience.
Clemson,
FYI the last Lounge handout was phenomenal. I am finding that the more I learn, the less I know.
Herb,
thanks…the email being sent at 6am EST will include the following…
(1) Lab Recovery template (online version) that is cleaned up.
(2) The same template in printer friendly form
(3) The sneak preview (complete) of my lastest elitefts.com article
(4) The ROM G.R.I.D in both forms and I spent 6 hours on the PNF part for you because of your email and passion. You mentioned PNF so I have all types such as the ISOM-ISOT-REL-PASS mean with spiral and single plane options. This is the same style as before with all of the methods I use.
Proprioceptive Neuromuscular Facilitation
Active Isolated Stretching
Microstretching System
Yoga
Dynamic Mobility
Self Myofacial Release
Movement Programming
Ballistic Movements
All of those styles will be explained by Type;Primary Mechanism;Key Muscle Groups;Placement; and Technique
The companion is a photo shoot with pool shark and includes yoga, gyroscopic work, powerballs, ropes, and zuma balls and will be out later.
The insulin drive tables are limited to the glucose readers and each brand is different…add in some brands have different strips!
Clemson, sorry for jacking the thread and getting off-topic, but how many Lab Lounge handouts have their been? I just want to make sure I’m getting them all.