PJ with the tire, do you have it attached to the waist of the athete? Do you have the runs on grass or on the track? Spikes or no spikes?
I use a small sled, plus 5kg or 10kgs…on grass usually, but i have another one for track.
The weight alone is not enough to judge: better to look at times and mechanics.
Vittori in early 80s advocated acceleration work with much heavier sled, up to 40 kgs, aiming for 1" more on 30m.
In hills it’s concrete so we use no spikes and rope attached to the waist. I’ve used isorobic with Ronald this winter, same protocol. I would like to try on shoulders like this instead of waist
PJ, the blocks were setup side-by-side, with the front block where you would expect it to be and the rear block brought forward. The athlete still uses his legs in the same sequence as if he was in the “normal” block setup.
I remember only watching them training and it didn’t look any better or worse in the early steps. But I took no times, no videos, so I don’t know if the time at 30m or 60m was better or worse.
As Youngy pointed out, it can work for some people probably, but also probably not for all people. Maybe it is like an extreme “bullet start”.
PJ is the same start that Shingo Suetsugu of Japan uses. Both feet together.
Wow! Great get Jason! Didn’t know anyone else was into it. That’s exactly what they were using in 89. (PJ no doubt will probably post the split results before and after for the Suetsugo trials using normally spaced and adjacent block settings. )
Why would blocks be set up like that? Any advantages/dis-advantages? What determines the block settings/face angles? Are the pads placed in a happy medium between where the front block and the back block - the middle. I think 3-point starts would be interesting!
Jason, as I understand it (or at least as I can remember back to 1989, so long ago now :o ) the front block is placed where you would normally place it for the conventional block placements.
Then the other block, which would normally be a couple of shoe-lengths behind the front block (something like that, but I’ll stand to be corrected) is simply brought forward and placed adjacent to that front block - as you see from that great photo. If you hadn’t pointed it out I’d have never noticed it.
Sorry kk i will keep Suetsugu’s splits results secret I get it now the side by side. Gwen Torrence use almot side by side also at some point of her career… In case of Olu, i always let him chose the space which varies through the season with his perception of his leg strength. I don’t think much difference can be observable regarding intermediate times for the first segments of the race, but it might determine acceleration length and the way they reach full speed (or not!).
I wonder how Ben might have fared using this side-by-side block setting? He’d probably have killed everyone whatever setup he used.
What would be really greedy is if we asked Jason for a picture of Suetsugu in the “set” position! Great pic.
Is it the same guy, who had trouble with one of the officials in Paris? I think it was because none of his legs were in contact with the track -I may be wrong on this. It was in the 200 m, I think.
Yes, same guy. Excellent starter too-despite, or maybe because of, his unusual block settings.
was wondering, on a specific speed work day for elite sprinters like 10.00, wuts the amount of speed work done, like more than 800m. would like to know how much fasuba does, if its not too much to ask. thanks
Olu never done more than 800m speed work a day, but it is usually anywhere between 350m and 540m.
He won today in Abuja (wind 0.0) with 10.16 from Uchenna Emedolu 10.23, Deji Aliu injured and scratched after 20m (that’s the only results i have). It’s probably partly due to the stupid starter who held them during 4 or 5 seconds in “set” position.
congrats on the race, some starters always do dumb stuff like that, i still remeber the race with asafa last year, where he won with 9.9 starting 2m behind, he was :mad:
Sorry for the late reply …In recent years I’ve simply gone from long to short with all my hi int work with my tempo remaining at 70-75% range. Tempo segments will start from 100m in length progress up to 400m. As an athlete I’ve been exposed to what you prescribed. We did extensive tempo in the form of large ladders and repeated runs (ie. 5-4-3-2-1, repeat 300’s). Over time the Ext Tem became Int Tem and eventually special endurance. However, we were not given much accel work at the time to inturn provide that “base for speed”, which I believe led to either injuries or sub par indoor marks. With the athletes I currently get and the indoor season we run I feel my athletes will be better served doing a reciprocal aproach as you laid out. Now, I know athletes are different as well as their comp season, but could you provide me with a general/rough description as to how many weeks you spent in ext temp, int temp etc, being that Fasuba ran a reduced indoor season? I’m not looking for plan just ball park numbers, ie. 4 weeks ext temp, 3 weeks int temp etc…
Thanks and I look fwd to you reply…
Well the indoor season was not supposed to be reduced and we always have to deal with necessity. As for weeks number, i’m working the other way around. For example with Ronald, on week 8 of our program (mid december), Ronald’s workout was starting blocks and isorobic accel, then 1 Special Endurance run with sub26sec goal, if not he had to do a second one. He ran so easely that he thought he had to do the second rep. He actually did 21.26… so we stopped ! It meant that i had to update my training plan. It’s almost every year the same, Olu comes ahead of the plan so the intensive tempo phase is almost inexistant.
Thanks…