Chambers sets goal at 9.65 for Paris!!

[flettotenko]

@Charlie_Francis

716- welcome back!
The point about wind-aided times is a good one. Whenever a time has been run- however it has been done- a neural imprint is made for all time. From that point forward, the difference to achieving the time under legal conditions is a matter of additional strength development only. (The wind doesn’t “push” the athlete, it reduces the amt of wind resistance that the athlete must overcome.)
Examples of this abound- notably Mo Green, who ran a windy 9.79 several years before achieving it under legal conditions. I don’t think it is any accident that the record time was the same down to the hundredth of a second.
The example of a 9.65 split scheme is designed with Dwain in mind because of his muscularity. The curve is very steep in the beginning, where it is likeliest that he could take advantage of his strength.
Has anyone reviewed this curve and does it seem to be reasonable? For a smaller athlete, I might project a slightly slower 60 on the way through ( but not much, as 6.32 would be about the slowest conceivable !) with a slightly faster finish. (We’re pretty far under the usual IAAF projections into the future here.
As for pressure, the trick is to keep it off yourself and ONTO the other guy. I’m sure Remi didn’t want to tell anyone yet!

I believe Powell can do this 9.65 in the future, maybe Gay as well. I sense it’d be with something like a 1.7-1.8-1.9 wind however. Powell with the 6.29 60split and Gay with the slower 6.32 60split.

[flying_duck_1]

@flettotenko

I believe Powell can do this 9.65 in the future, maybe Gay as well. I sense it’d be with something like a 1.7-1.8-1.9 wind however. Powell with the 6.29 60split and Gay with the slower 6.32 60split.

Guys, Sometimes I believe that too much wind in the back isn’t a very good thing. may be a nice breeze would be fine but anything more sometimes feel wierd!! Thoughts?

[rainy.here]

@flying_duck_1

Guys, Sometimes I believe that too much wind in the back isn’t a very good thing. may be a nice breeze would be fine but anything more sometimes feel wierd!! Thoughts?

Define ‘too much’?

I doubt Oba doesn’t think that strong winds are a bad thing.

[system]

with technolgy on the rise… this is what times shud be…

i agree with charlie up to 60meters…

only i say… 60… 6.35
70… 7.13
80…7.90
90 …8.69
100 … 9.50

6thn barrior is old news… .77…81…split could be sustained…

ciao a tutti…yeah its me again…

[Youngy]

Charlie Francis prediction 20th Feb 2003 -
“I think a 9.68 is near. The question is: Who will do it?” (Refer page 1 of this thread)

Pretty big call at the time.

A few contributors responded, thinking it was a little fanciful, but with Usain Bolt’s 9.72, maybe we might see the 9.68 in Beijing.

[Charlie_Francis]

@Youngy

Charlie Francis prediction 20th Feb 2003 -
“I think a 9.68 is near. The question is: Who will do it?” (Refer page 1 of this thread)

Pretty big call at the time.

A few contributors responded, thinking it was a little fanciful, but with Usain Bolt’s 9.72, maybe we might see the 9.68 in Beijing.

Worth looking through the splits suggested and those seen so far.

[Charlie_Francis]

@Charlie_Francis

Just for fun, I’m going to post a set of theoretical split times for a 9.65. Everybody can compare their own splits in the privacy of their own homes. Pierrejean, can you provide Dwains splits from his Paris run?

R/T .12
10m - 1.81 - 1.69
20m - 2.85 - 1.03
30m - 3.77 - 0.92
40m - 4.63 - 0.86
50m - 5.47 - 0.84
60m - 6.30 - 0.83
70m - 7.12 - 0.82
80m - 7.95 - 0.83
90m - 8.79 - 0.84
100m 9.65 - 0.86
These are the cards gentlemen.
Reed em and weep!

here are my splits for 9.65 again

[Track_man]

@Charlie_Francis

here are my splits for 9.65 again

The hardest part of hitting a 0.82 is already taken care of for Bolt.

[mortac8]

@Charlie_Francis

here are my splits for 9.65 again

Here’s a thought. How bad do you want to choke some of these guys for posting around sub 8 80m times in finals then shutting it down? …knowing their careers could go poof at any moment. I don’t remember flojo pulling that shit which is why her record might really “stand for 50 years”. She put it down in the trials of the trials.

[TMSSF]

Excluding RT and early acceleration processing:

Source: http://www.charliefrancis.com/community/showthread.php?t=18524&highlight=bolt

[Charlie_Francis]

Very cool graphic!! Sub 9.70 is getting close isn’t it?? Stay tuned.

[Hawiian_Surferboy]

That is a great graph, could be used to show the difference between bolt and say myself ( a lower level athlete) and the major differences in 10m segments

[stylee]

@Charlie_Francis

here are my splits for 9.65 again

Funny looking back on this now!

[David_W]

RT 0.165 +.04
10m 1.85 +.04
20m 2.87 (1.02) +.02
30m 3.78 (0.91) +.01
40m 4.65 (0.87) +.02
50m 5.50 (0.85) +.03
60m 6.32 (0.82) +.02
70m 7.14 (0.82) +.02
80m 7.96 (0.82) +.01
90m 8.79 (0.83) — (despite shutting off)
100m 9.69 (0.90) +.04 " " "

R/T .12
10m - 1.81
20m - 2.85 - 1.03
30m - 3.77 - 0.92
40m - 4.63 - 0.86
50m - 5.47 - 0.84
60m - 6.30 - 0.83
70m - 7.12 - 0.82
80m - 7.95 - 0.83
90m - 8.79 - 0.84
100m 9.65 - 0.86