I think the 200m is all about control of effort. If you watch the HSI documentary, Ato Boldon discusses his tactics. I am not sure I totally agree with them, but I agree with his concept of energy conservation. I think he talks about getting out easy, running a fast middle 100m and then maintaining. I would argue you want to work the first 20-30m, then maintain that around to 80-90m, then kick as coming off the bend, and try to relax and maintain the final 40m or so. Very open to suggestions on this though. I also think it depends upon your background. Stick Asafa in a 200m and I would imagine his tactical approach is different to that of Spearmon or Wariner say. Thoughts??
Ato talks about running the bend slow, but he went pretty fast on it… I think 98% of his straight 100m at the time?? (which may be like 99% or more of his fastest possible bend)
Also, MJ didn’t look to be conserving anything when he ran the 200m in the same race as Ato.
When you look at Spearmon’s results, it is clear that he’s lost or barely won a number of races specifically because he went out way too slow.
Yea his asafa’s approach is to run a fast 120 and slow down. I have never seen him run a all out 200.
What do you think Michael Johnson’s racing strategy was? 
:rolleyes:
When losing pull up with a quad injury
With the energy systems used I think blastin it from the start would work better the quicker your time… a 12second runner is most likely going to start using the glycotic system in the closing stages, I would argue that a sub 10 runner would still be using CP… not just because of the time but also the increased capacity of this sytem in an elite sprinter.
My thoughts exactly! Only argument could be that 12 second runners are not able to produce the same intensity, then maybe the energy gets ‘drained’ somewhat more slowly??
Maybe CNS energy, but I would expect an elite sprinters ATP-PC system to be more than capable of 10seconds… and after reading about Mannea’s repeated 60’s it seems that (certainly for him) elite sprinters can perform more 100% volume than novices. Certainly Tim Abeyie was knocking out some fast 60 repeats today, and I overheard Chris Bailie saying he’s been doing loads of repeats in the 6.4 - 6.6 range…
Yea, Tim was doing that a lot in Italy and I think he went as fast as 6.3, but they were being timed off first movement and the recoveries were only around 90 seconds.
90 second recovery 6.3s :eek: :eek: :eek:
Whats is the purpose of doing repeat 60m @ 100% intensities with inadequate recoveries? I would guess speed end, but how effective is this as technique diminishes? Also what is the difference between this kind of speed end vs. long runs like 80m,120m,150m with full recoveries?
I don’t know the exact philosophy. It was Collio’s coaching setting it. 6x3x60m, 90 secs between the reps, 6 mins between sets. It was discussed earlier in comparison to the methods of Mennea.
Development of alactic capacity or speed endurance. Count each set 3x60 as a 180m sprint then it also makes more sense. If you develop capacity then the theory goes that power increases if you look at alactic capacity training as the equivalent of max strength training for resistance work.
Note that the runs are supposed to be done at 90% int NOT 100%.
donavon bailey had MJ beaten from the get -go
regardless of the so-called MJ pull out, MJ did not have the speed to beat DB…
ciao
Why should technique be allowed to diminish here any more than anywhere else?
Do you think a session like this will automatically result in a loss of technique then? When explained as Martyn did in terms of 180, I would imagine technique could be maintained in those instances.
I was talking to someone regarding the article. Apparently the first couple of days after the off season, training is set to start at 5am, but then it gets pushed back gradually as athletes turn up later and later, until after a couple of weeks they start training at 2pm! Also recently thy supposedly did a 400, 300, 200, 100 session, and apparently Asafa’s times were 69 for the 400, he stopped after 250 of the 300! Around 30 for the 200!! Sherone Simpson apparently clocked 79 (I think, was certainly in the 70s) for her 400, and I think again it was around 52 for the 300.
I think this raises interesting points in terms of Charlie’s training thresholds, in that you either run at 95% or above, or beneath 75%. The more I look at how other athletes train, like Darren or Christian it seems they use this, inadvertantly I suspect. I mentioned this to Dave Lease yesterday and he agreed that those percentages made sense.