The adventures in fantasyland are over!
Blind, dumb, and ignorant is no way to go through life.
The real question is: What could the Jamaicans possibly do that isn’t omni-present all over the world?
That, in a nutshell, is why we have the policy we do.
Now cut the bullshit and move on. If you can’t, find another site that caters to your tastes.
Not at this time but I think some other members’ information is too readily shrugged off.
We talk about a big issue is that many athletes expend too much energy in the weight room. Going along with that theme, I don’t think a lot of people can wrap their heads around the fact that the “lazy culture” in Jamaica can produce success without a kamikaze work effort. If the response is, ‘oh they work so hard’, then why is Asafa never in shape to run more than a round or two (or run sub 48)?
Edit: I know it sounds crazy (I’m a crazy guy) but is it possible that most of the sprinters outside of Jamaica simply work too hard?
He can’t run sub 48 precisely because it’s a S-to L program- just like I’ve been saying. look at the facts. He runs 400m while they are running a large number of short hills and the 300s are at a joke pace. Same for Bolt- this year was S-to-L. How else can you deal with his comment: “We just started 200m prep.” AFTER he’d already broken the 100m WR.
I remember a nimrod reporter talking about how little Ben was doing after he ran 4 x 60 and went home on a Wed in a week bookended with three indoor meets on one weekend and two the next. (BTW, the 60s were ht’d in 6.0!)
Charlie Francis are those 300’s tempo or intensive tempo?
They quoted 37.5 on grass- so faster then tempo but not much Special Endurance challenge for a guy running 9.7.
Just for reference, Ben did 7 x 300 tempo in 45sec on grass without much effort in 1985 (PB 10.00)
First off, lazy may save them. The higher the output potential , the easier it is to get wiped out if you’re not careful- especially for men (higher output = more risk.
The other issue is that US sprinters are usually MARRIED to the track all year, every year.
Warm up on it: Tempo on it; Speed on it; Bounding on it
Do you see value in doing longer tempo runs (300-400m) for the 100m sprinter?
Not really. Ben did it in 1985 only because he wanted to feel a bit more comfortable running 200s- don’t know that it made any difference as long as the overall volume was the same (big circuit=2200m, 7 x 300= 2100m)
Looking back at TG gpp tempo workouts:
Tuesday
4 x 200m ( 28sec-3minutes recovery)- 8minutes rest- 4x200m (28 sec - 3minutes recovery)
Thursday
4 x 400meters ( 60 sec- 5 minutes recovery)
Saturday
6x300meters ( 42sec-53sec / 90sec recovery)- push ups 2 x 50, abdominals 2 x 50, calf raises
2 x 50, pull ups 4 x 4
I think a lot of times people look at a great athlete who doesn’t do a lot of volume (or work hard, or however you want to put it), and they think that if he worked as hard as other athletes he’d be even greater.
It never occurs to them that he might be great because he doesn’t work harder, not despite it.
They’re all at tempo pace for the athletes in question. In that case, I’d look to the 9 x 90s for the SE
You said it better than I could! I know plenty of people who work harder that most and many just end up burnt out or injured.
That being said “working hard” means different things to different people. For some it might mean a ‘big circuit’ and for others it might mean a Kratochvilova session.
No. The 300s were intensive tempo charlie. Anyone here can go on priceline and buy a ticket to Kingston and watch them train.
This appears to be early general prep, and not all that much different from what John Smith does, and compare with Trevor Graham prep from an old post about Gatlin.
HSI will start with what is literally extensive tempo. 300’s are run starting as 5X300 in 45 sec or so, but each week it gets faster, down to about 35-36 in the latter part of a workout. The 300’s overlap the second half of GPP and the fast half of SPP. And the tempo 200’s are at similiar paces/recovery described for Gay: about 8X200 in 26-28 with a half lap walk, or a little slower with a 100m walk.
Keep in mind that Bolt has run 45-point for 400 and at least 47-point each year, and Gay this year ran a 46-point 4X4 split in the Texas Relays. This would seem to imply the ability to run 300’s in 32-33, which is faster than what is being discussed elsewhere in this thread.
Running 300 in 36 is maybe barely 90% and also barely special endurance, but I wonder if gaining the potential at least to do 32 might have some to do with the speed maintenance Bolt showed in the last 40m of the 100.
Oh? A few posts ago you were going to call someone who has seen them. Now YOU’VE seen them. So they’ve returned to Jamaica, put on a session just for you (must have been today), and then gone off to Zurich?
BULLSHIT
I know people who trained with them for months. The point everyone knows is that your agenda is to promote your system.I have gone to Jamaica three times but I myself have never done a season with SF. I am trying to be fair as any session may not represent a total program.
So you admit you just lied
the point is to discuss what they are doing in training. If I was fully acquainted with what they’re doing, I’d say so. If you have something to contribute that’s actually helpful, we’re waiting.
The point everyone knows is you’ve just been caught lying, now your credibility is shot. I don’t have a problem with someone promoting on the site they own. Nobody’s forcing me to listen.
So in other words you don’t really know what they do?
Fair? I don’t think criticizing a training system ad hominem is very fair. If you have some reasons, let’s hear them so we can have an intelligent discussion. Careful of the forum rules though.
waits for person to mention yams again
I don’t know if this has been covered, but in the pictures I’ve seen of Bolt on grass, he’s wearing flats. Maybe this was just for picture purposes or for a certain workout, but I’m curious whether or not there’s any advantage.
When I’m doing speedwork on grass, I wear spikes. For tempo, I’m barefoot. And I’m training a guy for an Arena Football tryout who won’t wear anything but cleats…
just a lot of footwear confusion.