loren seagrave

he mention ben johnson several times.

http://www.athleticscoaching.ca/default.aspx?pid=11&spid=82

Didn’t he work with Donovan for some time as well? Was he at LSU with Pfaff?

yes he did, they all came from the same tree. i believe he also coach BJ.

he look like a beast here.

Pfaff himself said he raced at 204. Also Donovan lost 11 pounds from a virus going into those championships, unless that was a form of gamesmanship.

Pfaff and Bailey had a falling out during the period after Atlanta. I’m not sure of the time frame. Donovan briefly trained with Seagrave on Dan’s recommendation. Dan knew Loren’s methods and how Donovan would react, which was to go straight back to Austin with his tail tucked.

It’s my understanding that BJ’s time with Seagrave was cut short for much the same reason. Loren’s workouts are VERY tough to take.

What does it consist of? Sprint drills to failure?:slight_smile:

There was a thread that had some of his spp and pre comp workouts but i cant find it.

Noting to failure that I recall.

Incredibly long and generally intense “warm-ups” which take up to one hour. By reputation lots of ExT and InT. Just lots of volume and intensity together. His athletes seem to get good quickly but also tend to flame out.

What he preaches is not in-line with what he actually does from what I can gather.

http://www.charliefrancis.com/community/showthread.php?t=17587

That looks pretty accurate. As I said in the referenced thread, you ought to see what he has 400meter hurdlers do :eek:

I agree on the warm-ups being very intense. A former athlete of mine that worked with him gave me copies of the five different warm-ups they did during a weeks’ time. They were very fatiguing, some lasting over an hour and featuring many activation/calisthenic type exercises and not really many breaks in the warm-up until the very end. I thought those warm-ups might serve as good early gpp WORKOUTS to later transition into warm-ups that were not so intense and then some specific work. I have never used them them in that manner, though.

I was present at Seagrave’s first presentation after getting fired from LSU. He stated that for the first month of the season the warm-ups were the workout. For the next cycle the actual training would be @half the length of the warm-up and as the they got further into the season they would match up in duration. I think that he said, or maybe we all inferred that as they moved toward competition the warm-ups would get shorter. This was a long time ago. :frowning:

For this particular athlete, I don’t think the warm-ups changed. They might have elected to use the shorter of the warm-ups when peaking for the big comps. but I do not know. A few of the warm-ups were quite a bit longer than the others.

At the end of one of the shorter warm-ups, the athlete had the option of doing either: 1 lap of buildups. This, in the form of 100m build-ups+50m walk, etc. for the 1 lap.

The alternative to that was 3 x 100m A-runs!!!

If I’m the athlete and I have the choice between those two for completing a w-u, I know that I will not be picking choice #2!

I should know this but who has followed this Seagrave system? I know they say he was such a successful college coach. Was he?

He says “I brought Ben Johnson out of moth balls”. Getting Ben Johnson to run 10.3 at his prime age isn’t something I would be boasting about.

Of note: I did training last summer that included very long warmups which caused my performance to go into the shitter and didn’t recover that season. It was like…by the time I got to the meat of my workout, my hunger to train was greatly diminished.