another thing worth noting:it’s usual to have the best performances early in the season (so, according to vittori’s thinking, just few weeks after dismissing weight training) or late in the season for injuried athlete…a peak when it counts is very rare…For Bolt, MLF and so on…such great talents tend to get lost if they are not appropriately trained and guided in the world of pro track…
For who it’s usual?
Meaning italian sprinters in the last few years…I go by memory…but don’t remember many PB at the olympics or Wc from our sprinters( there are exceptions for sure)
Ah ok. I think Collio ran 10.20" at the Nationals and then 10.60" at the Worlds last year, or somehting like that.
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PB’s Cavallaro was 20"42 and not 20"28!
Bolt and Brown are two greats talent but our problem is the inconsistence of training system and mentality and not to run 10"20 2 times per years!
if your ran 10"7 when he was a junior (with some experience of training), then to running in 10"2 it can be a great (for you) performance
But our sprinter have great performances when they are younger, go to school and so they cannot train hard
Cavallaro and Scuderi’s coach wrote an article about his speed endurance training in cavallaro&Scuderi’s experiences: a real junk of training!
and we talk about guys without personal therapist, with poor experince and maybe less talent for training recovery
i remember for everybody Fabrizio Mori’s carreer
Good example… But William Frullani? I know that he changed train methods because he went in America for athletic experience…
and don’t forget example of andrea colombo, giulia arcioni and some other italian sprinters!
i think that vittori’s templates are too hard but some ideas are good (60m training, specific work on foot and some other element).
the problem is that prof.vittori don’t belive in rest!!! there are a lot of story about pavoni, mennea, zuliani: if they don’t vomit 3 times in a lactic or speed end training they don’t finish!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:
What did Colombo and Arcioni do?
Eheh…many italians here in this thread:-)
Well,what you are saying is true.
Let us have some nice time laughing…ridendo
I’ll briefly share with you things that leaves me very doubtful:
1- To hear,when massaging my athletes,people asking me :“hey,what’s happend? Are they injuried?”
2- To see curious people looking Ems like an hell machine 
3- To see athletes doing olimpic lifts with improper execution…(mmm well,i prefer to call them olimpic shits)
4-To see people using the multipower (smith machine)
5- To see athletes that after the weights,transform their “strength qualities” in speed qualities with very fast skips
6-To hear people asking me why i don’t let my athlete use the belt when squatting
7-To see that many guys had sexual toughts when i am perfoming PNF stretch on hip extrarotators and gluteus
i can continue for another half an hour…
great post!
2 notes:
point 4 - what’s the problem with power rack?
point 6 - you forgot board under heels!
i don’t agree with you
Running 60s isn’t a good idea when you see a 18 yeas old guy to run a 4 x 4 x 60 m @ 95%, 2 times in a week (ok, for speed endurance of course!)
plyo isn’t a bad idea but when you do weight and then 10 x 10 of bounds, what is the quality of sprint session?
Again: how many sprinter in italy apply double o triple periodization?
the only year that cavallaro ran in winter, he did his PB in summer
an exception was Barberi (400s) in Oslo, last years in not perfect conditions
Yeah Vabo…sorry i was intending Smith Machine/multipower
I’ll edit my post.
Ahah,yes…is right.Board under heels.
Regardless Vittori’s work on feet,yes they are important but,he recommends to wrap the feet because all the work is very traumatic(in Volumes and intensity).Well,if you wrap them,how can the ligaments,muscle and all the structure gain strength??
i remeber giaconi, favaro in 110hs (ECh), torrieri in 200m (WCh), attene 400m (OG 2000)…
i think that 60m training is a good work but you can’t do 2 times a week! it’s a good training if you use it after a max speed cycle and far from competiotion, and of course only one day in a microcycle.
I agree with you, it’s impossible!
really? i don’t remember… i belived that in 2003 cavallaro tried to pass to 400m, but he changed his project.
but cavallaro’s situation is very strange beacuse he doesn’t want train so hard beacuse he was shocked for 400m training plan of Di Mulo.
The works by Di mulo included the 2 famous Vittori exersìcises…sprints with longer steps and sprints with higher frequency…I don’t know of anything similar in other schools of training.(they are models with precise parameter to match…for example a 10 20 sprinter has to run both exercises in about 10 60 with n-x steps, or n+x steps…) I find them misleading, possibly ruining natural sprinting efficency…also, from 18 -19 Y.o. ,on the model provides an ideal race modeling with specific length and frequency of steps to be obtained, basing them on leg lenght.
Sometimes is fun to read that Mo greene was at the top at 9"90 or so because the ideal parameters matched very well,or that gatlin should take shorter strides because he is X cm tall…
So what did Mori do differently that allowed to be sucessful for so long?
Great memory for gioconi in EC (i don’t consider favore, with respect)
For Attene: yes, you are right but… he was a 200s until 1999
He changed to 400s in 2000 and i think with (relative) low volume in training
In 2001 he stated (after exclution in WC) that he trained harder than the previous year but he could not understand why he could not run 400s sub 46" (the previous year he could ran in 45"5)
For Torrieri i think we have the same story of attene
ehehehe
i remember vittori’s statements about Mo Greene after WC in Athens (1997):
he was perfect but with his body structure he cannot improve again!
yes, 2 years later this man ran 0"10-0"11 better in the same track (without counting reaction time) and in Edmonton he could do better…
i think less frequencies and volume of training because of his knee problem (i remember some interviews wherein he complained he couldn’t train frequently and with some volumes)