My man…i’ll talk with him and ask more infos.Maybe you know who this guy is…think at where i usually train…
It’s quite amazing,i really can’t understand how a human being can tolerate this volumes without breaking all the bones 
The funny thing is he was injured only a couple of times…
Hi guys!
I’m just registered in this forum! Is Fantastic It is the better athletic’s site I ever seen! Sorry for my english…
Hi Fulkrum, indovina chi sono??
I’m a guy trained by the “Vittoriano” that Fulkrum mentioned in the up post.
Ciao a tutti!!
Byeee
oh welcome aboard…run some 20x200 recently?
No, only 1000X5 or 6… EHehe I’m joking!
My coach, is a “Vittoriano” but not completely… :rolleyes:
For me Vittori’s plans are efficaces but need to find persons can “to survive” at his trains. :eek:
Mennea is one of them. 
Wasn’t there an “individualization of training principle”? 
Hi Simonezz!
Welcome to this site.
Finally you decided to come here.Good choiche.You need some time to understand well,and after every day you’ll appreciate the great informations you can find here.
See you soon on the track.
Hi Fulkrum, today I’ve coach’s examination, so I will not train. Tomorrow, I will go to the track at Pisa!
Ci vediamooooo là!!
Byeeeeeee and thanks for the “welcome”!!!
X sprinterouge: yes but Vittori’s principle teach us that who survive will go fast, who die during his trains… He’s not a serious athelete! No intermediate way! Only Train Hard! :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
mennea and stop!
for CF the motto is
train smarter not harder!
Nice this affermation! I like it! 
Either the system doesn’t work too well or there were many un-serious athletes in Italy, given the fact that after almost 30 years you can count the sub-10.20" sprinters on one hand.
Let’s hope WE can find some good talent to develop here in Italy…
But in 100m Olympic final I continue not to see “white” athlets… I don’t wnat defense Vittori’s methods but this is a really fact and I remember you that Simone Collio (10"20, the better in Italy before leg operation) is trained by a coach he has Vittori’s ideas… And as him Verdecchia too (the second Italian better sprinter).
it isn’t mine!
To get to a final you gotta haveat least a 10.00" shape. Now, the difference between 10 flat and 10.20" is big and between 9.90" and 10.20" is huge, so the first step is to be able to run around 10.00" to have a chance to get to a final.
Another step would be the ability or the will to peak for the major competition. In the last few years, at least, the best Italian times have been performed in July (National Championship, European Cup, Golden Gala) rather than at the Worlds or Olympics.
Anyhow, surely Prof. Bonomi found a way to tweak the system to make it work for his athletes, which means he doesn’t apply it blindly but takes into consideration individual differences.
Pietro Mennea, Marian Woronin, Koji Ito, Vladislav Dologodin, Viktor Bryzgin, Kostyantyn Rurak, Matthew Shirvington, Nicolas Macrozonaris, Shingo Suetsugu, Frank Emmelmann are sub 10.07" performer with non-african ancestors, as you say, not many.
What happened to the leg of Collio?
the problem isn’t to have good sprinters, but excellent!
in italy we have great talents but we don’t improve!
an exemple was Cavallaro that at 19 years old with only 3 months of training (1999) won European junior championship in 20"47
After 7 years of hard training he improved to 20"28… wow, an improvement of 19 hundreths!
his teammate, Scuderi, at 19 years old had a PB of 10"41 and finished 3rd in world junion championship (sydney?)
Their coach is Di Mulo
I readed some schedule of some 400s sprinters such us Nuti, Grossi (their coach was Cecconi) and you can see this one:
Monday
speed
4 x 5 x 60 m —> 6 x 60 m + 4 x 80 m + 3 x 100 m
- (yes, the told this one!!)
cross 5 km!!! or fartlek in 3 km
Tuesday
200s session
8 x 200 m, r.i. 2’30" (Nuti ran them in 29") ---------> 3 x 10 x 200 m, r. i. 2’30" (Nuti in 28" -----------> 2 x 10 x 200 m (Nuti in 26"5)
First sessions of the year seem extensive tempo run and then?
Wednesday
Aerobic work
2 x 1000 + 2 x 600 m + 2 x 500 m + 2 x 400 m ----------->3 x 600 m + 3 x 500 m + 3 x 400 m, r.i. 4’
His best athlets ran: 1000 m in 3’, 600 m in 1’38", 500 m in 1’19", 400 m in 58"
Thursday
speed
4 x 5 x 60 m —> 6 x 60 m + 4 x 80 m + 3 x 100 m
+
cross 5 km or fartlek
Friday
lactacid work
x — > 12 x (80 + 100 + 150 m) or 7 x (80 + 100 + 150 + 100 m), r.i. 30" for repetitions and 6’ for sets
Saturday
300s session
4 x 300 m --------> 10 x 300 m (from 43" to 39")
Sunday
Uphill
5 x 220 m + 7 x 100 m -----> 8 x 220 m + 10 x 100 m, 3’30" r.i.
- 4 x 100 m in track (i think they used them to “loose” muscles)
the following session was the sprint session…
Weight training
2 time in week
Absolut strength (his terminology)
6 x 6-8 1/2 squat
lunge strides
2 time in week
Analitic strength
calves, thigs and glutes for 4-5 x 12-15
For security purpose: belt and a bord under the heel when his athletes do squat…
Yes, no rest day!
and of course, simple tamplate of periodization!
and for new talents, Howe Besozzi and Fantoni?
Besozzi had great performance in world junior championship (2 years ago, when he was 19 years old) when he pulled his hams (?) months before and had to train only for few months (i think with good intensity and low volume).
And, who is the best sprinters of the last 20 years in italy?
Answer: fabrizio mori (400 hs, world champion in sevilla and second in edmonton) who was drawed to train not much (and without overdone frequencies) for his knee problem
Yes, with a normal talent for international standart that man ran 47"54…
I don’t know what happend precisely to the Collio’s Leg. I just know that for an operation ,this year he didn’t ran yet (Pardon for my language), however Bolt sign his PB when was junior (19"93) and now?? Brown?? 10.01 in 100m Junior!! and now?? There are many athlets who run fast when they are young but after 20 years need to use well the mind… It isn’t the same… However in effect you’ve got reason when you tall about 100m training, in Italy we train 100m the same at 200 runners. En fact I’m here to learn… ehehe!! I’d like to see an Italian that win 100m in example Golden Gala… Wow!!! :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Bye and thanks for your full ask.
yes, but performance for 200s sprinter?
also very very low!
keep in mind Torrieri or Cavallaro i.e.
Bolt ran 20.08 a month ago and 20.10" three weeks ago, he is quite consistent. He also ran 19.99" last year. At that performance level consistency is very important. For istance, I don’t think Cavallaro have been consistently running in the 20.20s", which, by the way, is a different performance level.
Brown ran 9.99", 10.02", 10.05" last year (and 10.10" -1 at the Worlds quarter final), again, consistency.
I have the impression that Italian athletes have more performance variability during the competitive season, I might be wrong, though. I say this because it seems to me a 10.20" athlete run around that time only once or twice ina season.