Beijing Bible Ban

THIS LITTLE BEAUTY FROM THE CATHOLIC NEWS AGENCY…

Religious Censorship
The Bible among objects prohibited at the 2008 Beijing Olympics

Beijing, Nov 2, 2007 / 02:18 pm (CNA).-

Organizers of the 2008 Olympics in Beijing have published a list of “prohibited objects” in the Olympic village where athletes will stay. To the surprise of many, Bibles are among the objects that will not be allowed.

According to the Italian daily La Gazzetta dello Sport, organizers have cited “security reasons” and have prohibited athletes from bearing any kind of religious symbol at Olympic facilities.

Other objects on the list include video cameras and cups. (Except for D-cups:p …kk)

The Spanish daily La Razon said the rule was one of a number of “signs of censure and intolerance” towards religious objects, particularly those used by Christians in China.

Currently in China five bishops and fifteen priests are in prison for opposing the official Church.

Original Source: http://archivio.gazzetta.it/archiveDocumentServlet.jsp?url=/documenti_gazzetta/archivio/gazzetta/2007/10/ga_10_071013028.xml

I’ve since heard that two Italian Olympic Committee guys went beserk when this was announced at a briefing in Beijing recently because the Italians apparently take a priest with them as a member of Olympic team staff.

The matter went straight to the Vatican, then direct to the head of the IOC and then back to BOCOG who nixxed their plan within 24hrs! :stuck_out_tongue:

I guess they figured the Olympics could do without a boycott from the entire Latin world :eek: - and everyone else who believes in something or other.

Not being down with modern terminology does this mean bibles and crosses etc are now allowed? What does nixxed mean?!:rolleyes:

Nixed is like axed, cut, slashed…

Thursday November 8, 2007
MYT 7:47:47 PM

Bibles will be allowed at Beijing Olympics, but only for personal use

BEIJING (AP): Organizers of the Beijing Olympics sought to quash reports that Bibles would be prohibited at the Games next year, saying Thursday that religious texts for personal use are welcome.

Controversy over the reported Bible ban was just the latest speed bump for China’s leadership, which wants use the Games to project a positive image of the country.

The reports in the Catholic News Agency and European media touched off an outcry prompting a U.S. senator to call the Chinese ambassador for an explanation and a Christian athletes group to protest the "deep violation.‘’

The Beijing Olympics organizing committee flatly denied the reports.

"There is no such thing. This kind of report is an intentional distortion of truth,‘’ said Li Zhanjun, director of the Beijing Olympics media center. Li said texts and items from major religious groups that are brought for personal use by athletes and visitors are permitted.

A notice on the official Beijing Olympics Web site explaining entry procedures into the country said "each traveler is recommended to take no more than one Bible into China.‘’

However, the policy does not apply to Falun Gong, a spiritual movement that has been declared a cult by the Chinese government and banned. China has cracked down hard on followers of the sect, who the U.S. State Department has said face arrest, detention and even possible torture and abuse.

"We don’t recognize it because it’s a cult.

So Falun Gong texts, Falun Gong activities in China are forbidden,‘’ Li said. "Foreigners who come to China must respect and abide by the laws of China.‘’

Though Olympics preparations such as venue construction have hummed along at a record pace, China has had to defend itself against criticisms of its human rights record, environment and activities in Sudan.

Beijing’s air is so polluted that International Olympic Committee President Jacques Rogge has said some events could be postponed. Others have said that China has been ruthless in its pursuit of resources to fuel its booming economy _ turning a blind eye to the bloodshed in the Darfur region of Sudan while buying two-thirds of the country’s oil output.

Authorities routinely clamp down on activists and dissidents, and the U.S. State Department said in a report earlier this year that respect for religious freedom in China remained poor.

Beijing continues to repress Christians, Tibetan Buddhists, Muslim Uighurs and the Falun Gong, the report said. More than 100 foreign missionaries have reportedly been expelled in what critics say is an effort to "tighten control on Christian house churches prior to the 2008 Olympics,‘’ the report said.

The reports about the Bible ban _ which said Bibles were on a list of "prohibited objects’’ in the Olympic Village _ prompted U.S. Senator Lindsey Graham, a Republican from South Carolina, to telephone the Chinese ambassador for an explanation.

"If true, it would be outrageous act of censorship that would be rejected and condemned by the entire international community and people of all religions,‘’ the senator said in a statement. "There is no value needed more in the world at this critical time in human history than religious tolerance.‘’

The U.S.-based 4 Winds Christian Athletics group said a ban would be a "deep violation of the Christian athletes that we represent.‘’

"Our organization represents athletes who love Christ and will never give up their daily Bible readings during the Olympics,‘’ it said in an e-mail statement.

Religion in China is regulated by the ruling Communist party, which is atheist. Worship is allowed only in party-controlled churches, temples and mosques. Worship outside that official structure, such as at Tibetan Buddhist retreats or home churches, is banned, and organizers face harassment, arrest and terms in labor camps or prison.

Bibles are allowed to be sold only in the approved churches, according to a document posted on the Web site of the State Administration for Religious Affairs and a man in the bureau’s regulation department, who refused to give his name.

A woman at the Wangfujing bookstore, one of the largest in Beijing, said the store was not allowed to sell them and never has.

Though government-approved religious services in China are generally identical to those abroad, authorities control the number of officials such as priests and monks, and have final say on the appointment of leaders. The Communist party also restricts outside activities such as printing religious literature and charity work.

Non-approved foreigners, such as tourists, are strictly prohibited from spreading religion in China.

The Olympic charter bans religious discrimination, and services _ Christian, Catholic, Muslim, Jewish, Hindu and Buddhist _ will be available to athletes in the Olympic Village next summer, Li said.

Religious texts should be available. "Even if there aren’t, the athletes can bring the texts themselves, there’s no restriction,‘’ he said.

IOC rule 51 states "no kind of demonstration or political, religious or racial propaganda is permitted in any Olympic sites, venues or other areas.‘’

But that rule is in place to prevent participants from using the games as a political platform and doesn’t include any ban on Bibles.

What’s a D-cup??

Oh is it the “banned word” - cup? (:o )

No, D-cup as in large bra size Stephanie, oh you of suspicious mind.

Oh!!

Suspicious me… despicable you !:rolleyes:

I assume the Bible in PDF format would be OK :slight_smile:

lol, like china needs to abide by the vatican.

The point of course has nothing whatsoever to do with the vatican’s direct influence on China.

But the IOC does have to worry about the Vatican because the vatican influences the Catholic world and that means a lot of countries like all of central and most of south America, plus Spain, Italy and lots of other places like the Phillipines, plus individual Catholic folks in just about every other country. So the IOC told China to get real and obviously they did - quickly or face the real possibility of an embarrassing saga of public protests, closer scrutiny of China’s oppression of religious groups and the possibility of a boycott by some countries and some individuals. The IOC doesn’t need more controversy, certainly not a boycott of any type - and China doesn’t want to embarrass the body who gave them the Games.

Don’t screw with the Vatican. Catholics drink a hell of a lot of the world’s supply of Coca Cola and the IOC is paying attention to sponsors.

Senator Says Defy Chinese Bible Policy at Olympics

Fred Lucas and Kevin Mooney
Staff Writers

(CNSNews.com) - Sen. Ken Salazar (D-Colo.) said Americans traveling to the 2008 Olympic games in Beijing next year should defy the Chinese government’s rule that prohibits travelers from taking more than one Bible into the country.

Cybercast News Service asked Salazar Wednesday whether Americans traveling to China should defy this rule. “I think so,” said Salazar. “It’s a trampling on a freedom that we cherish in this country that’s a universal freedom. I don’t think that kind of constriction on something that is such an international global celebration is something that ought to be tolerated.” (Hear Audio)

The official Chinese policy prohibits anyone from bringing into the country “manuscripts, printed matter, films, photographs, gramophone records, cinematographic films, loaded recording tapes and videotapes, etc., which are detrimental to China’s politics, economy, culture and ethics.”

Wang Hui, executive deputy director of the Beijing Organizing Committee for the Olympic Games, elaborated on this policy, telling the South China Morning Post last week: “Athletes and other individuals can bring with them their own Bibles. But no one can bring in multiple copies for public distribution.”

The prohibition would extend to a movie about the Dalai Lama or the U.S. State Department report on human rights in China, among other things, if they are used for distribution and not for personal use, Wang Baodong, spokesman for the embassy of the People’s Republic of China in Washington, D.C., previously told Cybercast News Service.

Asked how the Chinese government would know if American visitors with a copy of the State Department report intended it for personal use or for distribution, Wang said, “I think the people at the customs and border-check at the Chinese airports are very much professional. They know how to handle the situation, I think.”

The provisos Beijing officials have attached to the use and distribution of Bibles seem incompatible with unambiguous language included in China’s own constitution, Jim Davids, an assistant dean of law and government at Regent University, who also serves as president of the Christian Legal Society, observed.

Davids specifically cites Article 36, which reads as follows: “The state protects normal religious activities. No one may make use of religion to engage in activities that disrupt public order, impair the health of citizens or interfere with the educational system of the state.”

For Protestants and Catholics, the use of Bibles would certainly fall under the category of “normal religious activity,” Davids said. Therefore, the current policy, even with the revisions, appears to be inconsistent with stated constitutional protections, he said.

However, the judiciary in China is unlikely to make note of this inconsistency in Beijing’s policy, because it does not operate independently from other government branches, Davids surmised.

Sen. Tom Harkin (D-Iowa) said he wasn’t aware of the Chinese policy and declined to comment specifically on the matter, except to say, “That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard of. That’s really strange.” (Hear Audio)

Regulating religious materials says something about the country, said Sen. Jon Kyl (R-Ariz.), chairman of the Senate Republican Caucus.

“What are they afraid of? It’s an insult to the people they invite to their country,” Kyl told Cybercast News Service. “It seems to me the Olympic committee should have established some guidelines before selecting China to ensure that people would continue to be able to enjoy the freedoms that they do in the United States when they travel to China.” (Hear Audio)

Kyl, however, stopped short of saying Americans traveling to the Olympics should defy that rule.

“The Chinese government has a thoroughly well-known reputation for the way that it treats people that it thinks violates its laws,” Kyl said. “I’m not sure I would want to suggest someone violate laws in that country because of the kind of treatment they’re likely to receive.”

The Catholic League has called on the International Olympic Committee to launch an investigation into China’s policy.

“In addition to violation of religious liberties, the Chinese government is guilty of gross hypocrisy,” Catholic League President Bill Donohue said in a November press release. “On the Web site of the Beijing Olympic Games, there are several comments lauding religious rights.”

Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) didn’t advise that anyone purposely defy the law, but believes anyone who can bring a Bible into the country should, “and then leave it there afterwards.” (Hear Audio)

“I would not advise anybody to defy the rule, but I would have every American and everybody in the world bring a Bible in there,” Hatch said in an interview. “If they can bring one, let’s bring as many as we can. That means hundreds of thousands of Bibles. So it would be good for China to have the Holy Word, but I’d be the last to advise them or insult them or to violate their law.”

The Vatican, China, IOC and Coca Cola… thats a sordid union of cultural imperialist. Haven’t you heard Coca Cola goes down well after Mass.